Leica 35mm Summilux Serial Numbers



  • Leica Order No. - 11870-black - 11860-titan - 11871-M3 (w/ specs)
  • Production era - 1967-1995 < 28,550 lenses
  • Variants - Black, titanium, M3, ELC, ELW and 1913-1983 anniversary versions
  • Lens mount - Leica M-bayonet
  • Compatibility - ELC versions cannot be used on M9 cameras without modification by Leica service facility.
  • Number of lenses /groups - 7 /5
  • F stop range - f/1.4 - f/16
  • Closest focusing distance - 1 m /3.28 ft - 0.65 m (M3)
  • Smallest object field - 630 x 950 mm - 390 x 590 mm (M3)
  • Diaphragm setting /type - 10-blade
  • Angle of view diagonal - 64 degrees
  • Filter type - None (Series VII, E41 with 12504 hood)
  • Accessories - Hood: 12504, 12526
  • Materials -
  • Dimensions diameter - 46.5 mm / 1.83 in
  • Weight - 245 g /8.64 oz
  • Inscriptions - LEITZ CANADA 2XXXXXX SUMMILUX 1:1.4/35
    LEICA SUMMILUX-M 1:1.4/35 3XXXXXX
  • Designer - Walter Mandler
  • Tech Data - Erwin Puts (2002) Leica M-Lenses.pdf - pgs. 34 - 37

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Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux II Serial Numbers

Sep 01, 2010 Forgive my ignorance but I know very little about Leica. I'm a Hasselblad guy. Could someone please explain to me why a 35mm Summilux-M Aspherical f/1.4 recently sold for $9,230 on eBay? The serial number on the front of the lens was 3460689.

Puts Pocket Pod.pdf
~ stolen lens, please report if found on sale
SN StartSN EndProductYearTotal
2221201222220035mm f/1.4 Summilux (ELW+ELC.black)19671000
2289951229095035mm f/1.4 Summilux (M3+M-ELC+ELW.black)19681000
2347301234830035mm f/1.4 Summilux (M3-ELW+M-ELC.black) 19691000
2391201239340035mm f/1.4 Summilux (ELC.black) 19702200
2547551254955035mm f/1.4 Summilux (ELC.black)19722000
2625601262660035mm f/1.4 Summilux (M3-ELC.black)19731000
2679701268070035mm f/1.4 Summilux (ELC.black)19741000
2721821272262035mm f/1.4 Summilux 1974800
2768501276890035mm f/1.4 Summilux 1976400
2802401280340035mm f/1.4 Summilux (ELC+ELW.black)19761000
2870001287060035mm f/1.4 Summilux (ELC.black)1977600
2899401289980035mm f/1.4 Summilux (ELC.black)1978400
2991701*2992700Summilux-M f= *5 cm 1:1.4 (ELC.black)1979[1000]
3051101305160035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M 1980500
3081001308200035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELC.black)19801000
3139301314030035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELC.black+13-83)19811000
3191701319270035mm f/1.4 Summilux (ELC.black+13-83)19821000
3253101325410035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELC.black+13-83)19831000
3281401328240035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELC.black) 19831000 ~ 3281473
3375001337550035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELC.black)1985500
3394601339560035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELW.black)19861000
3433001343450035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M 19871500
3467071346757035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M 1988500
3474701347515035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELW.black)1988450
3501201350170035mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELW.black)1989500
3519796352029535mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELW.black+titan)1990500
3537468353846735mm f/1.4 Summilux-M 19901000
3570133357113235mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (titanium)19911000
3599720360271935mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELW.black+titanium)19923000
3637326363762535mm f/1.4 Summilux-M 1993300
3709803371000235mm f/1.4 Summilux-M 1995200
TOTALASSIGNEDSERIAL NUMBERS 1967-199528,350
Serial numbers compiled from known lenses and * Lens nos. 2992238 & 2992584 are 35mm not 5cm per list (ELC-black)
  • On Stage with the Leica Summilux-M 1:1,4/35mm ASPH. Founded in 1981 in Los Angeles, Metallica is one of the world’s most succesful rock bands. With every new release they storm the charts and fill concert venues all over the world. Songs as „Enter Sandman“.
  • As serial numbers should be, they gave each lens its own serial number, and counted up. Serial numbers as low as 50,000 are still floating around. Leica made lens number 1,000,000, a 50mm f/1.5 Summarit, on 24 October 1952, at which time they already had onver 100 years of experiance.
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LEICA 35MM F1.4 SUMMILUX-M ASPH FLE

Leica Product Number11663 (Black) / 11675 (Silver)
Production HistoryMay 2010 to Current
Lens Composition9 Elements / 5 Groups
Floating ElementYes
Angular Field of View63º Diagonal / 54º Horizontal
Minimum Focus.7 Meter / 27 Inches
Aperture10 Blades, Non-Circular
F-Stop ScaleF1.4 to F16 in 1/2 Stop Increments
Filter Size46mm, Non-rotating
Filter ConnectionScrew-in
Lens CapLeica 14231 (Replacement)
Lens HoodLeica 12465 (Replacement)
Lens Hood CapLeica 14212 (Replacement)
Weight324 Grams / 11.375 ounces (includes hood, no caps)
Lens Size58mm Long (when mounted); 57mm Wide (at hood)

OVERVIEW

The Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH FLE has been a somewhat controversial lens because its existence fundamentally acknowledged focus shift in its predecessor. To minimize minimize focus shift, Leica changed the placement of the aperture blades and updated the lens group behind the aperture blade with floating lens element (FLE) design. While Leica initially passed off the changes as a mild update, the marketing verbiage on Leica’s website has changed over the years -

“The Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 ASPH. is a further revised version of this popular wide-angle lens for the Leica M rangefinder system. Thanks to the latest developments in the fields of optics and precision engineering, the new 35mm lens sets a whole new standard in the fast wide-angle lens portfolio. Whether it's a matter of selective focus in the close-up range, high-contrast available light applications or landscape shots with immense depth of field, the lens delivers persuasive arguments in any situation.”

With these changes came the proverbial “storm in a teacup” as the Leica aficionados debated the merits of the new FLE versus the outgoing Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH. The Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH FLE was introduced in May 2010, so much of that controversy has now since passed.

BUILD QUALITY

The 35mm Summilux-M FLE is 2 ounces heavier than the pre-FLE ASPH version it replaces. The added weight was noticeable at first, but I no longer notice the difference. The lens’ appearance is more industrial - especially the new metal lens hood with its angular design. The lens barrel is a bit wider too. I liked how the pre-FLE version looked on the Leica M9-P, but now I prefer the updated look - especially the new hood design. The new lens hood is smaller and does not block the viewfinder as much. The hood screws on and is perfectly centered when fully screwed in place. The only niggle is the slide-on hood cap which is pretty easy to lose.

The focus and aperture rings are well placed, the focus ring turns very smoothly with little resistance. On the Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH the focus ring is right next to the lens hood lock ring; they were too close. With the new hood design that problem is eliminated. My 35mm FLE had a rattling sound coming from the aperture mechanism; Leica said this was normal in 2012. In August 2013 I sent the lens to Leica and asked them to fix the rattle after reading on a forum that it could be fixed. And the lens did indeed come back with the rattle fixed.

Leica M10-P Safari with Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH FLE

Ergonomically I love the Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH FLE's compact size and light weight on the Leica M-P (Typ 240) and Leica M9-P. The lens' size feels very well matched both in size and weight with the Leica M bodies.

PERFORMANCE

Leica 35mm Summilux Asph Serial Numbers

When looking at pictures from the 35mm ‘Lux FLE, the first and most obvious difference compared to the 35mm 'Lux ASPH (pre FLE) is sharpness. The FLE’s wide-open performance is stunning. It is easily as sharp as the Leica 50mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH, and so far it seems like the 35mm ‘Lux FLE manages chromatic aberrations better than the 50mm ‘Lux ASPH. If wide open sharpness is a top priority, then the 35mm ‘Lux FLE is a clear-cut winner. But this new design outputs a different image rendering compared to the pre FLE ASPH:

  • DEPTH OF FIELD: even at F1.4 there seems to be a lot of depth of field. On the plus side this makes focusing very forgiving, but the negative side, separating the subject from the background is difficult. I am finding the 35mm FLE to be a great a landscape lens, but at this point I still have a slight preference for the 35mm ASPH for people pictures.
  • SHARPNESS: compared to the Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH (Pre-FLE), sharpness is probably where I see the biggest difference. The 35mm FLE's sharpness at F1.4 is very good - I really cannot imagine it being better. And when stopping down to F5.6 or thereabouts, the sharpness across the frame, at the edges, in the corners - all excellent.
  • COLORS: perhaps Leica changed their lens coatings, whatever the case is, in a contrasty setting the colors are very saturated. Since I prefer to shoot color, this is fine with me. Initially sharpness blew me away, but these days it is the colors that blow me away. The 35mm FLE and 50mm Noctilux-M ASPH have a different color rendition than my other M lenses, and I am really like this new color rendition.
  • REFLECTIONS: when taking pictures at night, there has a been some double imaging artifacts (sometimes referred to as ghosting) around bright spots. The chances are this is light bouncing off the Leica M9-P’s sensor, reflecting off the 35mm ‘Lux FLE’s rear element and then back onto the sensor. I have not seen this problem with the Leica M-P Typ 240 or Leica M Monochrom Typ 246.
  • BOKEH: probably the mostly common cited difference in the new 35mm Summilux FLE is its “harsh” bokeh. After taking many side by side test shots with the FLE and non-FLE, while the bokeh is different, there is not a clear winner. I do agree that the new FLE has a more “nervous” bokeh in general, but both lenses are equally capable of producing a nervous bokeh.

One area where the 35mm 'Lux FLE is often criticized is its harsh bokeh. I had covered many miles and many trips with the pre-FLE version, and never had much (if any) issue with its bokeh, so I expected the 35mm Summilux-M ASPH to trounce the FLE. When I compared the 35mm 'Lux ASPH and FLE's bokeh and the findings were mixed. The comparisons helped me realize that my coveted Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH was not as perfect as I thought:

35mm Summilux-M ASPH @ F1.435mm Summilux-M ASPH FLE @ F1.4

While the comparison shots show the ASPH and ASPH-FLE to be comparable in terms of wide open sharpness, in normal day to day shooting I feel the FLE is markedly sharper and has more depth of field at F1.4. I suspect the increased depth of field is why the bokeh is busier. On the plus side, the added depth of field makes the FLE easier to shoot at F1.4. The corner and edge-to-edge sharpness has improved slightly with the FLE, and again, that is at the consequence of the bokeh. In real world shooting the differences in bokeh do not amount to much. The tree branches above are a worst case (test) scenario with a very busy, very deep background.

Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux

Lastly, on the topic of focus shift, I find focus-shift to be a non-issue with the 35mm 'Lux FLE. Focus shift was noticeable in its predecessor (Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH (Pre-FLE)), but could be managed. With the new 35mm FLE version, I give zero thought (or worry) to focus shift.

Leica 35mm Summilux Serial Numbers Manufacture

CONCLUSION

If heading to a family event or just out for the day, very often the 35mm 'Lux FLE is the only lens I carry. For my shooting style, the 35mm focal length captures the subject and the location - without being ultra wide and without having the wide angle perspective. 50mm is great for single person portraits and candid shots, but if trying to capture the context of the location and what is going on around the subject, the 35mm focal length works for me. The 35mm 'Lux FLE is my 'go-to' lens for low-light shooting because:

  • A 35mm lens does not require fast shutter speeds, 1/60th is usually sufficient.
  • The 35mm 'Lux FLE is pretty easy to focus, so I shoot F1.4 without too much hesitation.
  • The 35mm 'Lux FLE is fairly compact and is easy to carry as a single lens set-up with the Leica M-P Typ 240.
  • With the 35mm 'Lux FLE's F1.4 aperture and the Leica M Monochrom's Typ 246 high ISO performance, I can shoot handheld in any lighting condition.
  • After 1000's of pictures with the 35mm 'Lux FLE, I am confident in the lens' performance.

There are less expensive fast-apertured 35mm alternatives such as the Zeiss 35mm F1.4 Distagon ZM and Voigtlander 35mm F1.4 Nokton ASPH II, but those lenses are larger and heavier. At this point the 35mm 'Lux FLE has worked so well for me that I do not put any thought or consideration into other 35mm lenses. There is no denying that the 35mm 'Lux FLE is a pricey lens, but the performance-size ratio is excellent. And the 35mm 'Lux FLE is among my most used lenses, if not the the most used lens. So as the cliché goes, if it ain't broke, why fix it?

Picking up a used a Leica 35mm F1.4 Summilux-M ASPH (Pre-FLE) can be financially attractive these days, but I would not down-grade at this point. The 35mm 'Lux ASPH (Pre-FLE) had more purple colored CA (chromatic aberrations) at F1.4 and the focus shift was a concern. The new FLE improves in those areas and offers better resolution and its color rendition has more 'pop'. There is not much else left me to say - the 35mm 'Lux FLE gets a big 'thumbs-up' recommendation.